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I got up to the point where this logging

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debris was and I was looking up at a

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fairly steep angle it was about uh 20 or

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25 feet in in the air maybe maybe less

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that's low and how big would you say it

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pretty much filled up the available

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clearing space there oh probably about

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25-30 feet in diameter it's it's really

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hard to estimate because you know it's

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up in the air sure and there's nothing

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around that you can compare the size to

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you know that's true okay but we're

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talking about something fairly large

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fairly low to the ground and very

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distinct you know this this wasn't any

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kind of hazy thing and the light from it

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was not so bright that I couldn't see

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the the surface very distinctly good

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observation so you weren't being blinded

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in any way or your view is not being

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obstructed right and your head was all

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clear there wasn't a sense of dreaminess

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or Haze no okay a lot of fear though

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especially the the closer I got wow well

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that usually heightens people's senses

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doesn't it yeah okay now why when you

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started to feel the fear did you not

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just immediately turn around and bolt

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well

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um

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I was you know feeling the the need

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those guys were yelling get the hell out

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of there get away from there you know

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and uh but as I had gotten closer to it

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I could hear the sound it was making and

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and uh

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at at the point that I was you know got

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up near these the logging debris this

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these you know Limbs and and brush and

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stuff that was there

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um the thing suddenly started to to make

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this sort of uh revolving sort of a

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rocking motion ah interesting we didn't

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start spinning in the air the same side

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stayed toward me but but it just made a

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sort of a a rocky motion and raised up

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and the sound you know it suddenly had

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this real powerful uh uh increase in the

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volume to the sound it just you know

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seemed to vibrate my whole body and uh

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that scared me so much that I I didn't I

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didn't run back to the truck I ran uh or

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I jumped down behind the end of a log

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there just you know to for cover you

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know yes

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yes oh goodness so now with the

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vibration or the sound other than making

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you realize up something's changing this

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is getting scary was it physically

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painful or uncomfortable no it wasn't a

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painful like that but it was just so

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powerful it was just

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and it seemed to be you know so many

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frequencies all mixed together and

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have you ever heard any sound remotely

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like that before or since oh no I mean

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you know I could compare it to a lot of

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different things but you know there's so

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there was a sort of a mechanical sort of

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a high

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rapid spinning sort of a scraping or

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turbine sort of a sound but it was it

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was a wine a high frequency wine thing

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with this extremely low rumbling uh

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sound you're very observant Travis yeah

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good and uh

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you know it seemed like it might even go

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off the range of human hearing uh on

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both ends because you know how that

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funny feeling in your ears when when

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there's a sound that's too high or too

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low to really hear yes yes yes it was

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right there did start to sort of come

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alive when when Travis uh the closer he

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got to it and like when it got right up

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nearly under it

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uh it was Swain and seemed to be

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oscillating like moving sort of like a

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top but not real rapidly just a slow

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wobble uh like a top wobble when it's

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yeah spinning and then it starts to slow

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down it's getting ready to fall over it

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yeah good description oh

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and like I say I'm not just giving my

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own you know here I'm going by what all

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the other guys have had to say also okay

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helpful anyway it uh

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it had this motion to it and it also had

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had this sound that Travis has described

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that he did a good job of that how far

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was your truck from where Travis was

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standing so we have a sense of distance

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well it was uh at least 75 possibly 100

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feet it wasn't more than 100 feet

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because later in fact years later I

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actually measured it at the site uh we

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knew where the thing was it was uh there

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was a tree a tree back behind it on the

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ridge a tall tree that you could see

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came up and actually

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I went behind just the very top of it

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went behind the thing and and I could

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tell from that that it was in front of

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that tree at least but it was a

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a clearing where there are a lot of

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large trees around in the the thing was

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uh

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all hovering 15 20 feet above the ground

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suspended there in the air until he

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walked up there and and then it started

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making this motion nice and uh when we

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measured when I did measure it uh it was

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it was

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probably about 90 feet

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to maybe the center of it you know on

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the ground right below where it would

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have been

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okay all right so you're about 75 to 100

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feet away the other people in the track

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certainly had a a clearer view than you

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but you're summing up everybody's

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statements and you did see it wobbling

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you did see the light and what did you

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see observe when Travis reported getting

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the sensation of being hit

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well uh

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Alan Dallas and I both experienced kind

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of the same thing there because I I had

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when when things started looking dicey I

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I turned to start the truck

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because I'd actually turned it off after

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I'd stopped it not realizing until I

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looked you know what this what the

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complete situation was uh-huh and uh

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then realizing what I had to do you know

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I went to you know it seemed like it was

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time to to be leaving and I I went to

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start the truck before I could turn the

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engine back on

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I I saw this blinding flash of light

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that lit up all the woods out in front

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of the truck and the other side of the

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truck just everything brighter than

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daylight

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and um

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and it wasn't like an instant you know

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like a flash ball just a pop you know it

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was it was kind of a prolonged thing

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like

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going off and huh and uh

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I of course jerked my head back to the

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right and and my image there was Travis

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uh falling back flying back through the

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air and landing on his back now Alan had

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to have the you know he had a good seat

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he was in the back seat but he was

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right on the door there and he uh had

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had gotten so frightened he says that he

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that he that he put his head down

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between his knees just for a couple of

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seconds in Fright and then he heard this

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crack sound this this uh the sound of

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this the light this being whatever uh

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hit Travis and uh he jerked his head

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back up to see the exact same thing I

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did Travis flying back through the air

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and uh it collided with the ground

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and uh that's right in there somewhere

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within those few seconds I had the truck

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on

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and just as Alan and

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one of the other guys was yelling to get